liberations

First 4 races should be north&south
But consett wont go with tyne&derwent
For some reason when one loft has first
20 in fed they want to try something different

Comments

Well said Kenny

Blaydon Racer's picture

No --we should all be up together . Those wanting to fly on their own should be able to -but fly on their own the full programme instead of cherry picking when they want to fly with the main group
You hear them saying their birds come out of the back when all up together --the way it is now the rest of us just worry about getting them back at all

Albert Jones
Winlaton HS

I fly in tindale cres near bishop auckland
I dont want my birds pulled to winlaton for the first
Young bird races it all right for u youre the back
Lofts were watching out the back now and
The farthest in our group is sacriston

WE DON,T WANT TO GO WITH THEM
AND THAT,S NOT THE FIRST RECORD THAT STOBBS BROS 7 MOSEY
HAVE BROKE

WE DON,T WANT TO GO WITH THEM
AND THAT,S NOT THE FIRST RECORD THAT STOBBS BROS 7 MOSEY
HAVE BROKE

If you dont want to go with them you should be made to go on your own franky boy youre the bigest fed in the amal arnt u

WE CARN,T BE MADE TO GO ON OUR OWN THE RULES ARE MADE BY 10 FEDS

How is it Consett Fed is being mentioned on this Web Site? .Consett Fed dose not make the rules, The W.D.A. is run on a democratic basis and it was the majority who chose groups,That means that the member,s of the W.D.A. want groups. You ask for common sense then you suggest our members from
Haltwhistle, Hexham, Ovingjem,prudhoe, Edmundbyres, Alensford, Cowshill, Stanhope, Wolsingham, Tow Law, should be liberated with feds on the east of the Amal Where is the common sense in that?.
I see the groups are on the AGENDA again even though its only weeks since they were done at the A.G.M. I hope someone knows the rules about how to change rules passed at a A.G.M.
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I'd rather my Y/B's were dragged 20 miles past than 100 miles in the wrong direction then having 180 miles to get back home it's no wonder lads are getting cleaned out.
Common sense the larger the group the better chance of getting them this way.

Thats learning youngbirds alot isnt in
Getting dragged 20 od miles past home

Blaydon Racer's picture

Well as I said earlier if you want to fly on your own you should be able to--as long as you stop on your own for the full programme

That way you needn't worry about them coming out the back if they get mixed in with ours

Albert Jones
Winlaton HS

At the end of day blaydon racer who
Ever you maybe all self back end boy

Blaydon Racer's picture

ME for myself ? I'm the one saying they should all be up together so that everybody has a chance to get their ybs back --its you selfish lot that are spoiling yb racing for the majority of the WDA And by the way my name is at the bottom of the post or is that a bit difficult for you to understand ?

Albert Jones
Winlaton HS

What im saying MR JONES YOURS DONT HAVE TO TURN
Round and work back and my name is K WILSON is that
Hard to understand

Blaydon Racer's picture

And what I;m saying is if they don't come back they can't turn round -now what part of that don't YOU understand

Albert Jones
Winlaton HS

ALL UP TOGETHER THAT WOULD BE MY VOTE

ROB BLACKBURN
PRUDHOE H.S

big rob

They might go 20 miles past but they'll only do it once if they've got any sense better they get dragged this way than down the country.
Typical example on Monday we let the Durham Combine Liberate before us because we were liberating in smaller groups.
People never twist when the weathers changeable and the decision is made to liberate them alltogether or in two groups rather than have a holdover

My answer to all theses points is how Many pigeons get reported up this area nearly all pigeons reported are near the liberation points or south of it never above us .
We need bigger groups getting them is easier said than done.
Newcastle forced to lib on their own should never happen to anybody .The one sticking point is the rule where Feds can pick single libs this needs removing then it could be easier to solve but won't be easy .

Forget my name
Alan Todd
Winlaton H.S

Rescind this rule prior to the vote on groups so remember when your preposals are asked for. Tattoo this on your heart rescind that rule.Secondly do not allow the tail to wag the dog. You want groups the silent majority do not. Ensure your deligate takes foreward what hes mandated to do, not what he wants.Im tired of having my hobby banjaxed so you can enjoy yours better. JPMCG.

THE RULES
13A- Federations be allowed a single liberation
13B- Federations be allowed to organise groups
the rules are still there so the members must want them, the silent majority want to get off their backsides and attend club meetings, the Secretary and Chairman have to be there, members do not attend meetings then complain about whats been passed by those that did attend, strange things pigeonmen

Right i need to check up on this but my understanding is a delegate from each fed is mandated to vote. Some feds delegates vote carries more credance than others due to his / her fed having bigger membership. Those who attend the meeting other than elected delegates can watch but not vote. So whats the point of getting off your backsides to attend.I have not complained post meeting as you know i complained prior too and post meeting.Iam of the oppinion 13a and 13b need to be rescinded. At the general meeting this is possible.I have no grievance with anyone in authority you do a wonderfull job,

All feds have one vote, That means we have one vote for 82 lofts ,or less less than everyone else,
The only time that numbers count is after a tiebreak.

Hello Joe
I think we have our wires crossed the meetings I refer to are club meetings where all proposals originate from and carry on to fed and end up at amal meetings.
My point is that the rules 13a and 13b are there because thats what the members voted for, proposals were on the agenda to rescind the rules but were defeated
Proposals were on that we should not basket Sunday for Monday racing, they were also defeated and members complain & blame the officials for Monday races
We have a big problem within the WDA concerning 13a & 13b and it needs to be sorted THIS YEAR, I put groups in the handbook that later get changed and nobody including me knows whether they are coming or going [nothing worse than a confused pigeon man]
The groups may work for some but they don't do the birds or members any good, its causing splits in the WDA and thats not needed.
If rule 13b was rescinded Feds could still have a single lib but would not be able to form a group, We would have a main group followed by single libs but all would need to be together for the yb national. how many feds would want a SINGLE LIB.
I don't take posts on here as complaints I take them as opinions of members, opinions that need to be listened to as a lot of them don't always come through at meetings, so I hope you ALL get your fingers tapping keyboards, thats what this sites for.
Kenny and Albert calm yourselves down, at the end of the day you both want whats best for the birds and eventually we will get there, THE SOONER THE BETTER

Blaydon Racer's picture

That is me being calm Brian --and by the way thats the first time in my life I've ever been accused of being a " BACK END BOY " ha ha

Albert Jones
Winlaton HS

I DID NOT MEAN IT AS THE WAY U PUT IT ON HERE
ALBERT WHAT I MENT WAS YOU ARE A BACK FLYER
IN THE AMAL NO AFFENCE MENT

Blaydon Racer's picture

None taken Kenny --I know what you meant i was only joking

Albert Jones
Winlaton HS

Cheers ALBERT I hope that means we
Havnt fell out
kenny Wilson
tindale cres hs

Blaydon Racer's picture

No problem--Mines a pint of Stella !

Albert Jones
Winlaton HS

I THINK IT WOULD HELP IFF POSSIBLE TO GET PROPOSALS IN SOONER AND HAVE MEETING FOR AGENDA EARLIER THAN PREVIOUS YEARS TO GET THINGS SORTED OUT WELL IN ADVANCE OF 2015 SEASON.JUST LOOK AT TODAY FOR INSTANCE 9 LIBS .IFF ANY ONE WANTS SINGLE LIB THEN LET THEM HAVE IT,BUT MY OPINION IS THEY ARE LIBBED LAST EVERY WEEK UNTIL NATIONAL.HAVING 2 LIBS WOULD SURELY GIVE US MORE POWER AT LIB SITE RELEASING APPROX 5,000 IN EACH LIB AND MAKING IT EASIER FOR CONVOYER IFF HE ONLY HAS A CERTAIN WINDOW TO LIBERATE AND ALSO ALLOWING OTHER ORGANISATIONS TO LIB THEIR BIRDS WITH OUT ANY HASSLE.